The working subtitle of this post is . . . you can lead an OB to the table, but can you keep him/her from cutting??
Here are some of my favorite tweets from the Saturday morning sessions. (And as I look at the 300+ conference tweets paused in twitterfall this morning, the day after, I realize there may not be a part 2 . . . kind of like History of the World!)
Disclaimer: Since I collated these posts from a public feed reader, I have not asked permission to repost them. OPs may request their tweets be removed and are welcomed to clarify their tweets in the comments section.)
BirthingKristen “Women should have the right, the support, and the resources to choose their own set of risks.” #vaginalbreech #ICAN2011
I do believe this, but gee, it’s hard to achieve especially when you involve birth attendants, regulations, insurance, hospitals, even birth centers, etc. I’m afraid to say that the fact is that women will never fully have the right to choose their own set of risks unless they birth on their own.
DeepSouthDoula Vaginal breech birth is in our reach but it’s up to the parents to make it happen. Like the parents who walked out 1 hour prior. #ICAN2011
Again, somewhat idealistic. In my case, I knew I’d be trying to fight my provider’s malpractice insurance . . . me . . . alone. I’m not saying there aren’t things we can’t and shouldn’t do, but realistically many, if not most, families are not going to fight the system one hour before giving birth. And they shouldn’t be made to feel like failures because they didn’t fight this overwhelming machine.
DoulaMari: “Mama loves you enough to have you at home even though you were breech!” #ican2011
This just hurts my feelings. I know the statement had nothing to do with me or my choice to consent to a CBAC for double footling breech twins and that it’s excerpted from an emotionally powerful experience, but it still cuts like a knife. Actually, it feels like a repetitive cut to the same wound that refuses to heal.
drpoppyBHRT When docs tell midwives, “you can’t do that” is it really because THEY can’t do that? #vaginalbreech #normalbirthignorance #ICAN2011
Nice. Yes, I think a lot of the time it does mean that. They haven’t been trained to trust the body’s wisdom; they’ve been trained to search for pathology and treat that pathology. Even the NIH VBAC consensus report indicates that younger doctors may be more resistant to VBACs because they were trained during a time when VBAC was (is) so highly contentious.
heathertom Tully: the question may be Is the attendant safe? #ICAN2011 #vaginalbreech
Absolutely. I personally would be more afraid to show up at the hospital pushing out a breech baby if I didn’t know that the doctor on the receiving end was experienced with breech. In fact, I’m of the opinion that in my community it may be irresponsible to show up at my hospital with a vaginal breech. It hasn’t been part of the local practice – obstetrics or midwifery – for more than 10 years.
drpoppyBHRT OBs in Germany and Israel are working to unite midwives and OBs to increase vaginal breech birth. I love that! #kneechest #ICAN2011
This is wonderful to know. We should be pointing to these case studies every chance we get. This will help us as we advocate for evidence-based care.
Other awesome tweets: (before I fell off the wagon)
MamaBear1326 Why am I lucky enough to live where I achieved a vba2c and some people dont have that option #breaksmyheart #ican2011
Many women don’t feel they have the option to birth their babies. This is so sad. The fact is that women have fundamental rights. No one can force you to consent to a surgery. And even ACOG’s 2005 committee opinion supports protecting these rights:
“Efforts to use the legal system to protect the fetus by constraining pregnant women’s decision making or punishing them erode a woman’s basic rights to privacy and bodily integrity and are not justified.” (via birthaftercesarean)
ICANofAtlanta How many ob-gyns have not read the latest ACOG practice bulletin on VBAC, not to mention the NIH consensus? #ican2011 #hcsm @drpoppybhrt
. . . and won’t acknowledge that local practice should change to reflect the bulletin and NIH findings. This is why I’m sending letters to all local OBs. I’m done with their fear mongering and lies.
mollytoba I keep hearing about better integration of midwifery and OBGYN care. Who is actually doing this? Any successful models? #ICAN2011
Someone did respond to this, but I can’t find the tweet. She mentioned some place in LA (which I can’t remember if refers to Louisiana or Los Angeles!). But that was the only ‘successful model’ response I read.
DeepSouthDoula Exploring birth trauma in mamas AND with birth professionals. What we witness can be traumatic for us too. #ICAN2011
I may have to dedicate a post to this. Birth professionals who experience trauma need to be treated!!! Please refrain from bringing your trauma into future births.
blairlovesjason Glad @drpoppybhrt discusses the harm in shows like Deliver Me, A Baby Story, etc. Means a lot coming from a professional. #ican2011
Totally! I didn’t know any better and was watching these shows in 2004 when I was pregnant with DD1. It made me afraid of the cesarean, but it didn’t do anything to help me (or encourage) me to prevent it. It was like watching a car wreck in progress, over and over and over again. Dammit, and then I wrecked my ‘car.’
ShannonMitchell Acnm says they are working on revised vbac statement addressing “immediately available” #birthaction #ican2011
Very good news. The ACNM needs to step up and not hide behind ‘big brother.’
babydickey Midwives Alliance of North America (MANA) has a c-section rate of 5.03%. YEA! #ICAN2011
I trust this to be true, but it would be so helpful if MANA would release the data. People want to see it. I want to see it. MANA hold plenty of statistics that to my knowledge are not publicly accessible. It’s a shame.
mollytoba Ida Darreagh of NARM: the safest place for a woman to give birth is where she feels strong, supported and capable. #ICAN2011
Absolutely. This is why I try to be super careful when talking with mamas who have different ideas about where to birth. Everyone should feel safe giving birth. It doesn’t ensure a perfect outcome, but it’s still important to respect one another’s decisions.
DeepSouthDoula Don’t feed the trolls! Seriously not worth it. As @unmarketing says – you are not the jackass whisperer. #ICAN2011 AND seeKJtweet Ok who said Beetlejuice? #ICAN2011
Oh my. There is a persistent non-practicing OB with too much time on her hands who just hates natural birth advocacy. She has quite a cult following. I used to go to her blogs thinking there was something possibly to learn there . . . but it’s just so polemic that I realized I was wasting my time and scaring myself in the process.
RobinPregnancy Every state needs to look at the safe transport bill for home births. #ican2011
And where do I go to find that? Over to Google. Searched ["home birth" "safe transport" legislation] which didn’t come up with much. But I did find that a bill is working its way through the Illinois General Assembly. Have a look! I found this as a result of reading this action alert from the Chicago-area homebirth meet-up group.
I’m taking a break from my “Emotional Clutter” post that I’ve been working on. Ahhh, nice to take a breather from that topic. My friend, L, pointed me to http://twitterfall.com as the best hashtag (#) reader out there. And well, she would know!
So, I’ve been reading the #ICAN2011 channel and want to share some of the tweets that I’ve seen that should make an impact on VBACtivists as we do our important work! (Since I’m pulling this content from a public channel, I am not asking permission to repost. I will remove tweets if the OP requests.)
@DeepSouthDoula: [Macones] Be patient and keep working on us (OBs). Things will get better but it will take time. #ICAN2011
This is encouraging to read. Other tweets indicate that consumers should be addressing hospital administrators. However, from personal experience I can tell you that our hospital’s CEO said he can’t make the OBs change. It’s easy for folks to displace and deflect in this business.
@Preparing4Birth: VBAC candidacy – low vertical incision 98% are this type. 1 or 2 prior ces should have access. Birthweight not a predictor. #ICAN2011
I read another tweet that indicated he supports VBA2+C but that it takes the right patient with the right provider in the right hospital. I’ve also read that the steepest increase in rupture rates is between 1 (.5%) and 2 (1%) cesareans and then begins to level out.
@Unnecesarean: Macones: We’ve all focused so long on uterine rupture but need to also focus on the consequences of multiple cesareans #ICAN2011
@babydickey: We are underestimating the risks of multiple c-sections. #ICAN2011
A great site for weighing the risks of VBAC and repeat cesarean is Childbirth Connection. Also have a look at the NIH VBAC Consensus.
@ShannonMitchell: When vbac rates CAN be 60-80% Don’t ask me to wait for ten years for a 20% rate #ican2011 #birthaction
I love me some Shannon. She’s absolutely right, so we all need to get off of our duffs and DO SOMETHING! Or do MORE!!
@ Unnecesarean: Macones: If hospitals can’t respond to emergencies, they probably don’t have any business doing obstetrics. (attributed to Landon) #ICAN2011
This is a very important point and should be addressed any time a facility with a maternity ward imposes a VBAC ban. People who live in towns with VBAC bans in place should write letters to the paper, picket the hospital, and set up an on-line petition at the very least. The average family doesn’t know that a facility that can’t handle a VBAC is unsafe for childbirth.
@ShannonMitchell: From 30 to 32% is 40,000 cesareans #ican2011 #birthaction
Wow, 30-32% is not nearly as offensive as knowing that 40,000 more women were cut open . . . many (most?) unnecessarily! And other tweets indicate that the 40K cuts refer to the increase from 32-32.9% (our current national cesarean rate). If that’s the case, how is that not perceived as a national crisis????
@tiffrobyn: Dr Macones: ECV, CVS testing, carry 1-2% risk, greater than vbac. #ICAN2011
Tests and procedures (including cesareans) that OBs may offer are sometimes riskier than what they refuse to do (attend VBAC). I will say that I’ve never been offered an amnio, ECV, or CVS even at my advanced maternal age.
More later, I am certain . . .
I have been a quiet blogger as of late . . .
I’m what? 19 weeks pregnant at this point? I’ve lost track.
But I just can’t really say anything nice right now. Everything I want to blog about right now is some sort of tirade. In fact, I thought about authoring a post with the title, “Eff Off, I’m Gestating In Peace, Dammit!”
Can someone explain this to me? Maybe I’m having a boy? Or perhaps I’m just reacting to the insane interpersonal stress I’m experiencing at work – I don’t deal well with abuse. Or maybe it’s the bizarre dreams I’ve been having lately – two of them have involved losing my baby.
Anyway, lots of feelings . . . and most of what I can share is stupid, inane, or negative. So, I’ll shove a sock in it.
Off to find my happy pants!
I’m feeling overwhelmed this week. Icky.
A couple of things have thrown me off my center, perhaps. Like my good friend’s threatened labor now at 30w gestation. Like my sister-in-law’s straight-forward CBAC yesterday – don’t get me wrong, I’m thankful, but it’s still affecting me. Like having to go back to work in less than two weeks – survival mode. Like all of the projects that I haven’t accomplished this winter break. Like my birthday coming tomorrow – gross late-30s number! Like CBA2C vs. VBA2C vs. CBA2C vs. VBA2C and on and on.
What do you do when you’re feeling overwhelmed and ineffective? Any suggestions? It’s really causing me to stagnate and procrastinate.
It’s not like I’m doing absolutely NOTHING. It’s just that I feel like I’m hiding in my birth research and stressing about a lot of different things and not actually accomplishing things in a timely fashion. I just need to break the cycle. I probably need a to do list – maybe a reward chart?! Haha!
Bear with me as I play around with my appearance!